Comments on: Interbike now and in the future http://crookedcog.com/2007/10/01/interbike-now-and-in-the-future/ A Blog for Every Bike Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:43:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: airport airport mortgages http://crookedcog.com/2007/10/01/interbike-now-and-in-the-future/#comment-6406 airport airport mortgages Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:58:26 +0000 http://crookedcog.com/2007/10/01/interbike-now-and-in-the-future/#comment-6406 <strong>airport airport mortgages...</strong> I always enjoy coming to this site because you offer great tips and advice for people like me who can always use a few good pointers. I will be getting my friends to pop around fairly soon.... airport airport mortgages…

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]]> By: Rich Kelly http://crookedcog.com/2007/10/01/interbike-now-and-in-the-future/#comment-4151 Rich Kelly Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:02:14 +0000 http://crookedcog.com/2007/10/01/interbike-now-and-in-the-future/#comment-4151 Nice post, Tim. Cool to see some comments about the show experience itself along with all the gear features. A few comments on your post and G-Ted's response are needed to clear up some of the expected conspiracy theories. Interbike and OutDoor Demo have the same per-square-foot pricing for booths if you do one or the other. Two factors make it seem like we are gouging the ODD-only exhibitors: 1. We offer a special ODD price to companies that buy booths at both indoor and outdoor expos. 2. Because of the outdoor layout, the smallest booth at ODD is twice the size of the smallest indoor booth. Apples to oranges here. The smallest outdoor booth is more expensive because it is larger than than smallest indoor booth. Same per unit price, though. No arm twisting here. On G-Ted's comment about the Outdoor Retailer show in SLC being "four times bigger" than Interbike: that's just plain wrong. In attendance terms, Interbike is actually larger than OR Summer Market (the bigger of their 2 annual shows). For ORSM 2007, their post-show press release states that there were "over 21,000" total attendees. For Interbike 2007, my preliminary numbers show the bike industry showing up in Vegas to the tune of nearly 23,000 people. On a sold square footage basis, yes, ORSM is the larger of the 2 shows with about 25% more sold booth space (in a smaller venue using ballrooms, hallways and meeting rooms). Not exactly 4 times larger. Oh, and now the OutDoor Demo is not important? I say over 6,000 people and 120 companies would disagree! As has been discussed almost ad-nauseum over the last year in various forums, we currently put on shows in many cities including Vegas, SLC, Denver and San Diego. We are not married to Vegas by any means, but as Tim explained in his post, there are many good reasons to hold IB in LV as well as many valid reasons to NOT hold IB in those other cities. There are many factors involved in venue choice aside from the local bike culture (which we are actually working on with the city and Bikes Belong, BTW). Sorry to bore you all with numbers. Cheers and thanks for coming to the Interbike! It was great seeing you all! Nice post, Tim. Cool to see some comments about the show experience itself along with all the gear features.
A few comments on your post and G-Ted’s response are needed to clear up some of the expected conspiracy theories.
Interbike and OutDoor Demo have the same per-square-foot pricing for booths if you do one or the other. Two factors make it seem like we are gouging the ODD-only exhibitors:
1. We offer a special ODD price to companies that buy booths at both indoor and outdoor expos.
2. Because of the outdoor layout, the smallest booth at ODD is twice the size of the smallest indoor booth. Apples to oranges here. The smallest outdoor booth is more expensive because it is larger than than smallest indoor booth. Same per unit price, though. No arm twisting here.
On G-Ted’s comment about the Outdoor Retailer show in SLC being “four times bigger” than Interbike: that’s just plain wrong.
In attendance terms, Interbike is actually larger than OR Summer Market (the bigger of their 2 annual shows). For ORSM 2007, their post-show press release states that there were “over 21,000″ total attendees. For Interbike 2007, my preliminary numbers show the bike industry showing up in Vegas to the tune of nearly 23,000 people.
On a sold square footage basis, yes, ORSM is the larger of the 2 shows with about 25% more sold booth space (in a smaller venue using ballrooms, hallways and meeting rooms). Not exactly 4 times larger.
Oh, and now the OutDoor Demo is not important? I say over 6,000 people and 120 companies would disagree!
As has been discussed almost ad-nauseum over the last year in various forums, we currently put on shows in many cities including Vegas, SLC, Denver and San Diego. We are not married to Vegas by any means, but as Tim explained in his post, there are many good reasons to hold IB in LV as well as many valid reasons to NOT hold IB in those other cities. There are many factors involved in venue choice aside from the local bike culture (which we are actually working on with the city and Bikes Belong, BTW).
Sorry to bore you all with numbers. Cheers and thanks for coming to the Interbike! It was great seeing you all!

]]> By: Karl Etzel http://crookedcog.com/2007/10/01/interbike-now-and-in-the-future/#comment-3961 Karl Etzel Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:33:41 +0000 http://crookedcog.com/2007/10/01/interbike-now-and-in-the-future/#comment-3961 Hey Tim Sorry I missed you in Vegas. Great post, ditto on the location and people skills comments. I'm always amazed by those who sit in booths and make no effort to engage visitors. I've worked booths and I talk to everyone, if only to avoid boredom. Agree with your other post on letting in the public as well. I can see exhibitors running from the room screaming already. Cheers Karl Hey Tim

Sorry I missed you in Vegas.

Great post, ditto on the location and people skills comments. I’m always amazed by those who sit in booths and make no effort to engage visitors. I’ve worked booths and I talk to everyone, if only to avoid boredom.

Agree with your other post on letting in the public as well. I can see exhibitors running from the room screaming already.

Cheers
Karl

]]> By: Guitar Ted http://crookedcog.com/2007/10/01/interbike-now-and-in-the-future/#comment-3940 Guitar Ted Wed, 03 Oct 2007 03:47:16 +0000 http://crookedcog.com/2007/10/01/interbike-now-and-in-the-future/#comment-3940 Well, I'll stick out my neck here and be the odd man out. Vegas sucks and it isn't the only place to "get the job done". I know the Outdoor Retailer Conference/show is in Salt Lake City and is four times as big as Interbike. And the Outdoor Demo? Who says you have to do that? They didn't in years past, and somehow we managed to do the deals and get the job done. Really, it's a luxury that isn't totally necessary. (And this coming from a guy that absolutely had a blast at Outdoor Demo) Weather is a factor, but look at Sea Otter. Every year we get dumped on and every year we come back. So what gives? I'm just paying Devil's advocate here, but I also can not believe we have to roll over and just accept that Vegas is it. We're better than that! Well, I’ll stick out my neck here and be the odd man out. Vegas sucks and it isn’t the only place to “get the job done”. I know the Outdoor Retailer Conference/show is in Salt Lake City and is four times as big as Interbike. And the Outdoor Demo? Who says you have to do that? They didn’t in years past, and somehow we managed to do the deals and get the job done. Really, it’s a luxury that isn’t totally necessary. (And this coming from a guy that absolutely had a blast at Outdoor Demo)

Weather is a factor, but look at Sea Otter. Every year we get dumped on and every year we come back. So what gives?

I’m just paying Devil’s advocate here, but I also can not believe we have to roll over and just accept that Vegas is it. We’re better than that!

]]> By: Daniel B. http://crookedcog.com/2007/10/01/interbike-now-and-in-the-future/#comment-3929 Daniel B. Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:01:44 +0000 http://crookedcog.com/2007/10/01/interbike-now-and-in-the-future/#comment-3929 Tim - Nice write up. I'm glad I wasn't the only one that had trouble at the Specialized booth! http://bikedrool.blogspot.com/2007/09/top-secret-specialized-booth.html I couldn't believe it!! I was in disbelief that they wouldn't want their products "marketed" as much as possible?! And like you mentioned, why even go, if you're going to be "top secret" about it? Trying to create some BS mysterious cloud around your products - yet have a booth at InterBike - is a bit silly. I'm all for having InterBike in a city like Portland, OR, or Denver/Boulder... but like yourself and the others mentioned, LV gets it done, so it will probably stay put. Tim - Nice write up. I’m glad I wasn’t the only one that had trouble at the Specialized booth!

http://bikedrool.blogspot.com/2007/09/top-secret-specialized-booth.html

I couldn’t believe it!! I was in disbelief that they wouldn’t want their products “marketed” as much as possible?! And like you mentioned, why even go, if you’re going to be “top secret” about it? Trying to create some BS mysterious cloud around your products - yet have a booth at InterBike - is a bit silly.

I’m all for having InterBike in a city like Portland, OR, or Denver/Boulder… but like yourself and the others mentioned, LV gets it done, so it will probably stay put.

]]> By: Donna Tocci http://crookedcog.com/2007/10/01/interbike-now-and-in-the-future/#comment-3927 Donna Tocci Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:20:22 +0000 http://crookedcog.com/2007/10/01/interbike-now-and-in-the-future/#comment-3927 Good stuff, Tim. First of all, I want to know if anyone in our booth wouldn't help you 'cause I'll have a "friendly" chat with them about that! Why go to the show if you aren't there to make connections and build relationships? That doesn't make sense! As for Vegas....well, yes, we love to hate it, but it gets the job done for all the reasons you mentioned. I do a large show in Indy in the winter and you have no hope of getting a dinner reservation even two weeks in advance of the show, never mind right on the spot. Vegas is perfect for that because there are so many restaurants around, heck there are a ton in the Venetian alone. One of our guys, good or bad, was in Vegas for a week and never left the Venetian/Sands complex. It's all right there at your fingertips. We may all grumble, but it works, I guess. Good stuff, Tim. First of all, I want to know if anyone in our booth wouldn’t help you ’cause I’ll have a “friendly” chat with them about that! Why go to the show if you aren’t there to make connections and build relationships? That doesn’t make sense!

As for Vegas….well, yes, we love to hate it, but it gets the job done for all the reasons you mentioned. I do a large show in Indy in the winter and you have no hope of getting a dinner reservation even two weeks in advance of the show, never mind right on the spot. Vegas is perfect for that because there are so many restaurants around, heck there are a ton in the Venetian alone. One of our guys, good or bad, was in Vegas for a week and never left the Venetian/Sands complex. It’s all right there at your fingertips. We may all grumble, but it works, I guess.

]]> By: Fritz http://crookedcog.com/2007/10/01/interbike-now-and-in-the-future/#comment-3916 Fritz Tue, 02 Oct 2007 04:49:26 +0000 http://crookedcog.com/2007/10/01/interbike-now-and-in-the-future/#comment-3916 Great post, Tim. Ditto about Vegas -- everybody loves to hate on it, but who else has half a million square feet of exhibitor space PLUS 22,000 hotel rooms? Great post, Tim. Ditto about Vegas — everybody loves to hate on it, but who else has half a million square feet of exhibitor space PLUS 22,000 hotel rooms?

]]> By: Graham http://crookedcog.com/2007/10/01/interbike-now-and-in-the-future/#comment-3907 Graham Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:14:54 +0000 http://crookedcog.com/2007/10/01/interbike-now-and-in-the-future/#comment-3907 Some good points here. I like the idea of the Outdoor Demo afterwards, though I wonder if people would be too exhausted to stay and attendance would suffer. Vegas is one of those places people love to hate, but you're right, there is no doubt that it is the best place for the conference given all that you highlighted. There is just simply not enough space in any other city. Some good points here. I like the idea of the Outdoor Demo afterwards, though I wonder if people would be too exhausted to stay and attendance would suffer.

Vegas is one of those places people love to hate, but you’re right, there is no doubt that it is the best place for the conference given all that you highlighted. There is just simply not enough space in any other city.

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